January 23, 2003

Nature update

We could use a little global warming right now -- there is ice forming on New York City's waterways. Meanwhile, down here Central Florida the temperature is supposed to drop to 24 degrees Fahrenheit tonight. Time to break out those old "Aagh! The Ice Age is Coming!" stories from the seventies vault...

(Via Asymmetrical Information.)

Posted by Andrea Harris at January 23, 2003 02:05 PM
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and while you are at it, pull out yer dog eared copy of "the population bomb" by paul erlich for a few hundred chuckles.

it is impossible to take these so called protectors of mommy earth seriously because every time they are proved wrong they just shift the debate. when erlich's theories about what the population explosion would do to mankind have proven to be pure idiocy from a drooling idiot, those who subscribed to those theories switched to the concept of "sustainable resources".

it is all such a shell game...its enough to make a drunk weep....so weep i shall....

Posted by: mr. helpful at January 23, 2003 at 02:18 PM

An ice age, at least in North America and Europe, is in fact a consequence of global warming. The hypothesis surrounding this is based on the idea that fresh, cold water from melting polar ice caps will dilute the gulf stream, thereby preventing warmer air from the south from coming up north. I talked about this about a month ago here.

Posted by: Alex Knapp at January 23, 2003 at 03:10 PM

An ice age, at least in North America and Europe, is in fact a consequence of global warming. The hypothesis surrounding this is based on the idea that fresh, cold water from melting polar ice caps will dilute the gulf stream, thereby preventing warmer air from the south from coming up north. I talked about this about a month ago here.

Posted by: Alex Knapp at January 23, 2003 at 03:10 PM

Hmm... sorry Andrea--I don't know how two of those got posted.

Posted by: Alex Knapp at January 23, 2003 at 03:11 PM

It was about 3 degrees farhenheit this morning as I walked to my JAVA programming class.

Posted by: James P at January 23, 2003 at 04:51 PM

We're all doomed! I say party!

Posted by: Andrea Harris at January 23, 2003 at 05:28 PM

Hmmm...hard to see how a global ice age and global warming can happen simultaneously, unless your definition of "warming" is extremely loose.

But that's not why I'm here. I'm here to say "brrrr" and also to express my smug satisfaction that I'm south of Andrea, if only by 20 miles or so. I just picked a couple of hundred red grapefruit, Andrea. In the wind and cold. I can testify that Yankees, once immersed in the Florida climate for several years, become cold weather wimps.

Posted by: David Perron at January 23, 2003 at 10:47 PM

I'm STILL waiting for snow in Tallahassee. I wonder when the last time was that that happened. All the natives would completely freak out. Too bad this cold is so dry. And yeah, if I was home in Boston this would be soooooooo nothing.

Posted by: David Jaroslav at January 23, 2003 at 11:05 PM

David P. -

It wouldn't be a global ice age. Just a "little ice age" in North America and Europe. Not on the scale to make the glaciers come back in real force or anything. We had something similar to it a few hundred years ago. We'd get through it. It's not an apocalyptic thing.

Posted by: Alex Knapp at January 24, 2003 at 12:02 AM

I'm holding out for snow in Florida. Real snow, not little crystals that melt in midair. (We have received some of that on occasion.)

Posted by: Andrea Harris at January 24, 2003 at 12:38 AM

David P. - Yankees don't have to be immersed in a warm climate to become cold weather wimps:) I've lived up here (in Indiana) my entire life - and with temperatures in the negatives with wind chill for the past few days, I've been staying inside under a blanket whenever possible.

I wish I was in Florida!

Posted by: Demosthenes at January 24, 2003 at 10:04 AM

Amazing how quickly we go from a 'Cooling Trend' to Global Warming. Perhaps next decade can be the 'Monsoon Terror' ? And after that the 'Drought Peroid'?

Posted by: amy at January 24, 2003 at 10:13 AM

The Great Asteroid Crash. Or: Locusts! Everywhere!

Posted by: Andrea Harris at January 24, 2003 at 10:17 AM

Just to cheer you all up, it was 41 Celcius (think that is about 105 F) in Adelaide today, and same again tomorrow.

This isn't global warming, mind you. Just a normal Aussie Summer.

Posted by: Scott Wickstein at January 24, 2003 at 10:36 AM

Yikes! Keep cool down there.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at January 24, 2003 at 12:43 PM

I was brought up in Northern Indiana. Notre Dame country, which is about as cold as it gets in that fair state. I remember one Christmas it got to 100 below (windchill; air temp was -35) and we all had to stay home from church.

But now all that acclimatization has worn off. Either that, or my wardrobe's not prepared.

Posted by: David Perron at January 24, 2003 at 01:19 PM

David P.,

Is this when we break into the Monty Python Four Yorkshiremen sketch again? I mean, we used to DREAM of -100 temperatures. Would've been a week on the Riviera to us. Etc., etc., ad nauseam. ;-)

Posted by: David Jaroslav at January 24, 2003 at 02:24 PM

Yah, I remember one day twuz so culled me ears froze clean off. Had to thaw em out fer tu ahrs n then stable em back on.

Posted by: David Perron at February 3, 2003 at 01:17 PM